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PostSubject: Re: CES 2015 Las Vegas   Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:41 pm

Staying ahead of the curve has been my approach to music production and reproduction all my listening life. There are some supernatual brains out there when it comes hi-tech from the ground up. Some of these brains live at a place called Qualcomm. With one of there higher ups having a "tunable room" I am fortunate enough to pick at top end of the tech food chain.



Here's some show press on Qualcomm & Audio as the streaming world grows ever closer to all of us.

Qualcomm AllPlay Gains Broader Audio Adoption At CES 2015

In the annals of high tech history, you will find many battles between companies, chaebals, consortiums, and standards bodies. This is true today for the security, content sharing and messaging in home automation. For instance we have the AllSeen Alliance, Designed for Nest (Google), Apple’s HomeKit, and OIC all vying for a place at the table. You see, everyone wants their standard to be the one that everyone writes to. The problem is that isn’t going to happen as the high tech industry wants choice. These groups will battle for years, and in the meantime, expect to see products come out that support one or more of these standards. This is where Qualcomm’s AllPlay comes into the picture as they have announced some major audio products supporting the AllPlay/AllJoyn standard.

Qualcomm’s AllPlay “smart media platform” is a multimedia platform designed for today’s connected user that carries their music around them all day long on their phone and using a streaming service. The beauty of AllPlay is that it allows the user to stream music of their choosing directly through to the speakers rather than streaming to the phone and then having the phone transmit to the speakers. In most cases, the smartphone is merely a remote for the speakers rather than an audio source. This significantly increases the battery life of smartphone users wanting to stream music as well as the quality of the audio since it isn’t a simple Bluetooth connection like most consumers currently use.



AllPlay’s platform is a combination of their software along with their hardware, which is specifically designed to transmit high quality audio over Wi-Fi while simultaneously being completely invisible to the consumer. AllPlay is based on Qualcomm’s own open source software framework called AllJoyn which is part of a broader AllSeen Alliance designed to help proliferate and simplify IoT and connected media.

However, currently in order to implement AllPlay, one must have both the hardware and software components from Qualcomm in order to work. Even so, Qualcomm has successfully brought on a multitude of partners that are either already launching products with AllPlay or that have committed this year to bring AllPlay products to market.

Some of Qualcomm’s committed hardware partners include Bayan Audio, Goodmans, House of Marley, Inkel/Sherwood, Optoma Nuforce, TCL Communications and TP-Link. Qualcomm has also added some new and interesting players into the supported streaming services that AllPlay can support. After all, Qualcomm does need to partner closely with various streaming partners to ensure that their platform delivers the highest quality music possible. So in addition to the hardware partners, Qualcomm is also announcing that KT Music, QQ Music, Tidal and Sound Cloud have said that they will integrate AllPlay into their streaming music offerings already adding to the 14 streaming music services that have integrated or plan to integrate AllPlay.

The addition of SoundCloud and QQ Music is huge because Sound Cloud is without a doubt one of the most frequented streaming platforms on the Internet, especially among artists and those that enjoy creative and original music. Having QQ Music also means that Qualcomm wants to ensure that AllPlay will remain relevant in China and that Chinese OEMs will want to produce AllPlay devices for their own market and not just for export, like TCL.

These announcements are without a doubt very important for Qualcomm and the future of AllPlay as a platform as it has started to become one of the key platforms for directly streaming media. It is very likely that this momentum will continue to snowball after this major CES announcement and as it may enable them to get even more hardware and streaming partners onboard even though they have almost every major streaming service committed. AllPlay already has support for Spotify, Tunein, iHeartRadio, Napster, Rhapsody and many more. Streaming is absolutely the hottest thing in music and movies and AllPlay may become the de facto standard purely because of its own maturity and the timing of the media streaming boom.

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PostSubject: Re: CES 2015 Las Vegas   Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:22 pm

MGA Show report 2015

Can't believe it's almost over, we just got started Exclamation The dates were 6-9 but we got things rolling a little early. Got the music playing and Harold and the girls worked on one of the video shoots.

Thanks Girls, I think Coop is a changed man Wink



The Consumer Electronics Show (CES) 2015 begins this week in Las Vegas. This year’s show is being held in Sin City from January 6 to 9. The 2015 CES will feature more than 3,500 exhibitors and is expected to attract more than 160,000 industry professionals from all fields of tech.

So what will the masses be looking for at the world’s biggest electronics trade show, according to "Voice Chronicle"?

This year’s big highlight will be the rise of Android TV. Google will attempt to bring a smartphone-like experience to the TV rather than attempting to recreate a PC in the living room. Many other companies are also expected to release their TVs with Anroid TV built in. Samsung will also present their smart televisions, which will be powered by their home-grown Tizen operating system.

CES 2015 will also have the most amounts of car manufacturers than ever before.



Last year’s event had electric and hybrid cars. However, this year car manufacturers will showcase self-driving prototypes. These cars will be technically capable of ferrying passengers around without interaction. Users will also see the smartcar, which will be packed with Google’s Android Auto or Apple’s CarPlay. These will banish the ancient car systems, but will be specific for navigation and entertainment purposes only.

and then there's





Wearables are also expected to be a big hit in this year’s CES. The most important of all the wearables will be smartwatches. The cost of the sensors and technology needed to make these gadgets is coming down. This will allow the device, which is capable to track movement, heart rate and even sleep, to be cheaper and more affordable. Tech experts believe that this year more than 40 million smartwatches, of various companies, will be sold.

OK so what else



Robotics Exhibits Grow by 25 Percent at the 2015 International CES

CES to feature full spectrum of robotics technologies changing the way we live, work and play, from humanoid entertainment devices to robotic cleaning machines, robots promise to revolutionize the way consumers interact with the world and monitor their health and environment.


 
The Robotics Marketplace, presented by Robotics Trends, will feature more than 18 innovative companies showcasing the full range of intelligent, autonomous machines that are connected to the cloud, controllable by mobile device and capable of seeing, hearing, feeling and reacting to the environment in ways once thought impossible. Robotics exhibits at the 2015 CES are expected to cover 8,250 net square feet of exhibit space, an increase of more than 25 percent over robotics exhibit space at the 2014 CES.
 
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So that's a small part of the trendy main floor. I'll be interested in how the future of home listening shapes up as the last two years you can see a shift in the High End Audio to more of a "practical" side, if there is such a thing. If you keep up with the times you will see a surprising rise in the afordable audio market. I think this is a part of the audiophile movement that must and will grow.
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PostSubject: Re: CES 2015 Las Vegas   Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:40 pm

I've been spending most of my time with the Viola in room #1








Away from the busy Busy BUSY I enjoy having the show right down the street. The last few years it's been nice to pop over and yet not being stuck. The folks who have visited here have fallen in-love with the Viola Mini. The surround feel is what shocks most of them. I make it a point to ask their opinion when they're finished and the most common comment is "didn't know you could have space and detail both". This is of course what we teach, the two go hand and hand and if missing either the moment is lost. Still, talk is one thing and listening is an altogether different experience.

well for now the music is calling my name, have fun

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PostSubject: Re: CES 2015 Las Vegas   Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:58 am

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CES 2015: Innovation at the Speed of Awesome!

Content Creators, Service Providers, Entrepreneurs, Innovators, Marketers, Health Care Professionals, Celebrities, Government Officials and Industry Professionals Convene at World’s Greatest Technology Event Innovations Across Show Floor Address Global Challenges

The 2015 International CES® closed today as the largest and most amazing CES in show history, breaking all records as innovators across the show floor unveiled technology services that will solve world problems and improve lives. Owned and produced by the Consumer Electronics Association (CEA)®, the 2015 International CES closes today after running January 6-9.

The 2015 CES wrapped as the largest show in history with more than 2.2 million net square feet of exhibit space featuring more than 3,600 exhibitors, including a record number of startups. Innovators showcased the latest across categories like automotive electronics, personalized health care solutions, unmanned vehicles, connected devices, 3D printers, gaming and more. CES is the world’s gathering place for all who thrive on the business of consumer technology and this year more than 170,000 industry professionals, including more than 45,000 from outside the U.S. convened at the only event of its kind to engage in the hands-on experience of interacting with the next generation of technology.

“This CES vastly exceeded our expectations. The show inspired and likely gave almost every attendee a sense that innovation will provide solutions to a range of global issues from the environment and agriculture to transportation, health and safety,” said Gary Shapiro, president and CEO, CEA. “CES is the center of convergence among content, services and products, combining to create amazing new technologies to improve our lives and entertain us. It’s been incredible to see thought leaders from many diverse communities come together for cross industry collaboration.”

“The technology here demonstrates how solutions to global challenges can be effectuated through innovation,” said John Penney, chief strategy officer, Starz. “This year’s show brought an incredibly strong narrative of interdisciplinary interaction across an array of markets and industries. Tremendous!”

The 2015 CES featured technology breakthroughs and product launches across the technology ecosystem, drawing the world’s attention to innovation from driverless cars and 3D printers to life-saving body monitoring systems and connected homes. This year’s show featured three venues - Tech East, Tech West and C Space at ARIA - established to curate technology innovation, foster community and satisfy all technology appetites.

While attendance reached record highs, product area-specific marketplaces and the new show venues enabled attendees to easily find specific areas of innovation while seeing the relationship among diverse technologies.

“Attendees from an array of industries were able to have the optimal CES experience across our three venues, Tech East, Tech West and C Space, based on their business needs and meeting schedules,” said Karen Chupka, senior vice president, International CES and corporate business strategy. “Our strategy of creating diverse CES experiences for our attendees appears to have succeeded. Our attendees were able to find focused technology areas while travelling easily and seamlessly among venues.”

“We had a terrific show. Our team was able to travel efficiently from venue to venue to make our meetings,” said Gary Yacoubian, president and managing partner, Specialty Technologies/SVS. “CES is truly a must-attend global event. We receive a full return on our investment.”

The International CES, which serves as a proving ground for innovators, big and small, featured 375 startup companies, up from 220 last year. Mara Lewis, CEO and co-founder of Stopped, said, “There is no better place I’d launch a startup.” CEO of Peak Ventures, Larry Richenstein, explained the business power of CES by stating, “there is no better place than CES to discover early stage companies in CE and related areas, and to learn the latest trends in technology.”

CES is curated to reveal the many facets of innovation. “CES is the new World’s Fair,” said Enrique Muyshondt, president, DesktopFab Inc. “You have to be here!” We brought a record number of buyers this year. There is no place in the world where you get so much done is so little time,” said Fry’s Electronics President Randy Fry.

CES represents all aspects of the technology ecosystem and brings together leaders from major global industries, as well as policy makers and government officials. The 2015 International CES featured government officials from across the U.S. and Canada, including five members of the Federal Communications Commission, including Chairman Tom Wheeler, four members of the Federal Trade Commission, including Chairwoman Edith Ramirez and seven members of the U.S. Department of Commerce, including Deputy Secretary Bruce Andrews and Assistant Secretary of Industry and Analysis, Marcus Jadotte. Other representatives from the Federal Trade Commission, the Environmental Protection Agency, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and the Federal Aviation Administration were also in attendance.

CES once again cemented its position as a truly global event with more than 45,000 international attendees. In addition, governments from outside the U.S. sent leaders including the French Minister of Economy and the French Minister of State for Digital Affairs. The U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia and the Slovakian ambassador to the U.S. also attended this year's CES.

The success of the 2015 International CES builds strong momentum for CES Asia which will run May 25-27 in Shanghai, China. With strong exhibitor demand for CEA’s inaugural event, the show will be curated with select qualifying companies permitted to exhibit. Companies interested in applying to exhibit are encouraged to contact Brian Moon, vice president international sales, CEA, for details. More information can be found on CESAsia.com.

CEA will release final 2015 CES numbers upon its independent audit late this spring. The International CES will return to Las Vegas Wednesday, January 6 through Saturday, January 9, 2016. For the latest CES news and videos visit CESweb.org and CESweb.org/videos. B-roll for the 2015 CES is also available online. The show close video which contains official show stats can be found here. CEA’s newest book Digital Destiny: How the New Age of Data Will Transform the Way We Work, Live, and Communicate by CEA Chief Economist Shawn DuBravac, Ph.D. is available now. Check out Variety’s CES Entertainment Matters E-Show Daily five for the most exciting entertainment tech trends at CES.


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PostSubject: Re: CES 2015 Las Vegas   Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:18 am

Hi TuneLand

There's a lot more to talk about, but we're still listening with no end in sight Smile

I'm booked tomorrow and Sunday with listening sessions and Harold leaves Monday, then this boy is going to  Sleep . This show had something different about it and everywhere I read or view on the local news, there's talk about the speed of technical change and the big buzz word at the CES "innovation" and I have to say there was tons and tons of it.

Tomorrow I have another meeting with Qualcomm, a listening session of course and probably more tech talk.

Well the natives are restless and I want to see what's happening on stereophile forum tonight, So I'll be back here and on my thread in a bit. Thanks for your patience Tunees, I'll be back in the tuneland swing of things soon.

hope all are having a good time, I know someone who is


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PostSubject: Re: CES 2015 Las Vegas   Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:47 pm

This show report for us is far from over so stay tuned!

I believe we got our point at least noticed. The next step is to show what we have been up to and how this fits in with the theme of this year's CES.



Innovation years ago was something talked about. Put in the setting of the Jetsons, something that was out there but not quite ready for primetime. Things have changed and we are no longer in Kansas. We have gone from maybe to a young fresh generation who has grown up with technology as the norm. Their not adults going back to learn but people growing up knowing advanced technologies as the common mans way.

This generation are not collectors of the past, but were born into the now. They view a Turntable as something that spins plastic. It's like we're still riding a horse looking at the cars first attempts and saying "that will never catch on" vs "oh yeah, I saw one of those in a museum". As some of these guys will go wow, that was cool, 99.9% don't have the same makeup as the "old school audiophile". It's ok that the OSA has our own little group of people swapping components and cables.

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PostSubject: Re: CES 2015 Las Vegas   Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:05 am

Frank Q&A's and conversations.



This CES we interviewed a few of the designers to get their take on the state of High End Audio and audio itself. One thing that was generally agreed upon is, the high end part of this hobby is going through a rethinking.

these are direct Q&A's added to our own thoughts

How was attendance?

"numbers were extremely low"

our thoughts

With the CES breaking attendance records of over 160,000 the amount of people making their way to the High End Audio area was very small as compared to High End Audio's prime show days.

asking the question on the main floor, have you visited the high end audio area?

"are they still showing at the Venetian"

asking one of the high end exibitors, how do you feel about the low numbers visiting?

"I think the attendance is a reflection of the general interest in what high end industry is doing, every year is less"

and another one which was pretty forcefully stated

"high end is trying to sell expensive rip offs of mass market technology that in many cases sound worse than what is on offer at 100th of the price from Sony, Pioneer or whoever, so I am not surprised that the attendance is getting lower and lower year on year, we see the same around the world"

while talking about the state of high end

"So it is hardly surprising to see that in a sign of desperation high end companies bring out $ 1,000.00 devices and systems, all made China of course and based on some standard package that costs $ 300.00 from everyone else apart from the nice box, which in a perverse way is exactly what the high end industry has been doing with digital amplifiers and all sorts of other products at higher prices as well, so perhaps the logic is consistent after all"

Another one, Where do you feel high end is?

"Ask yourself, what exactly is Ultra High End? What does it stand for apart from idiotically high prices without much real substance in terms of cost or performance to back up the price, except perhaps for the brand name and some flowery words on expensive brochures about how much closer to musical Nirvana a purchase of these will take you?"

In which way does the Ultra go beyond the normal High End?

"Apart from the price probably no far at all."

I want to point out that these comments were made from high end audio designers who are at the top of the High End food chain, and there were many more, but we felt the point with these is clearly made.

we agree

The hobby has been telling us something for some time now, it's not working. The mind melding between technology and the High End Audio world for the most part has failed. The old school high end audio has had problems introducing products that fit and perform in modern times. Quite frankly even the designers are saying that the new age is no better than low end and in most cases worse. This is not only mg speaking but the very designers themselves who can see the decline in performance and as a result the numbers of people interested.



And where are the demos? Where's that excitement that drove these walls crazy at one time? This hobby has been reduced to talking about audio instead of doing audio.

So if high end audio has not held their attention and there are 160,000 people here what are they listening to?



You have got to be kidding me affraid . High End Audio can not pull in the crowds over the new Sony Walkman?

The 90's have been reborn with the reappearance of the Sony Walkman! The last time you used one, it may have been while bopping your head along to some sweet Backstreet Boys or Bone Thugs-n-Harmony, while trying to match your scrunchie to your outfit. Amirite? Even though the company has been trying their best to compete in the music player industry this whole time, they haven't been able to reach Apple-like levels of success and haven't had a hit since their CD-Walkman was released in 1999. But now they're hoping to change that with their new luxury hi-res audio handset, the Walkman NW-ZX2, which they unveiled this week at CES in Las Vegas.

Well shoot, take a look for yourselves

http://www.justluxe.com/lifestyle/electronics/feature-1958067.php



The question for me is, how when high end audio was the cutting edge at one time, did they loose the interest of the public? I believe the answer will be found in the demo. High end audio has stopped doing serious demos for so long that no one wants to come listen to something that is no better than them slipping on a set of phones and kicking back.

What's exciting about a bunch of old farts sitting in suites with sound that is not even good enough to tap our toes to, giving last years sales-pitch rewritten?

People listening to music is at an all time high and high end audio is at an all time low. So lets stand outside of a highend show room and have the listener go between the new portables from the main floor, and have them walk into the room and listen, which did they choose?

How can we ask someone to buy into High End Audio when they choose the portable setup as sounding better? If we think High End Audio running static or close to is going to attracked anyone new, it's not. And if High End Audio chooses not to come to the CES, how do they pull anyone new into the hobby? You can't sell to the same consumer for 25 years and think that will bring growth.

Does this mean the end of the "audiophile" ? I say absolutely not. I believe this is the beginning of the new audiophile. If these high end designers are correct this means that great sound can and will be acheived at a much lower price once again. It will come re-packaged at a much lower price-tag with just as good sound and in many cases better than the big dollar products.

Will the ultimate pricetag guys buy into the new age of high end? I'm not sure it's going to matter. The important part is quality of sound, and if that quality can be bought at 100th the price, I only see the numbers going up, and maybe this is a blessing. If the buyer is focusing on what really makes sound electrical, mechanical and acoustical this hobby will go far beyond where it is now, with the audiophile puting his faith only in the components.

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PostSubject: Re: CES 2015 Las Vegas   Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:00 pm

To Michael Green

Anyone who can not see the hobby changing is blind or stupid. I happened onto the Stereophile website and saw your posting. For years I have been listening to my systems comparing them and can speak of this. I spend almost all of my time listening to my (as you would call it) simple system. My large system for the longest time was something I referred to as revealing, based on what I thought was suppose to be said when something sounded off. I would listen to my less than "revealing" system and not only feel more comfortable but would hear more of the music. I listen to a wide range of music and notice this overall on everything. I'm now 65 and realize I have been chasing a pot of gold that doesn't exist. I agree with the poster who said 100th of the price and have followed that fools dream long enough. Many of us who were caught up in the hype and I might say guilt of buying did so without working on our rooms and the other components you speak of. Three years ago I bought a set of your room tunes. They made a bigger difference than the last 20 years of audio swapmeets. If we don't understand acoustics first we will never understand this hobby no matter how much we spend on boxes. A stuborn hobby that will go down in flames before learning how to listen. Thanks for your efforts.
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PostSubject: Re: CES 2015 Las Vegas   Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:21 pm

Hi Krell

Welcome to TuneLand

For those of us who have lived through the rise and fall of the $$$ high end it's easier to see what has happened. For myself I watched several designer friends who sold out to the temptation and went the route of fool the people make the big cash game. I can remember going to homes of some of these to find there was no listening test room at all. They were having beautiful equipment being built without any true listening going on. It made me quite sick to my stomach to be honest.

I went to other places that would have test listening rooms which sounded horrible. I'm not talking about when the equipment was playing, but horrible just walking into the room talking. And then there are the countless other designers who have no idea that if they made equipment to suit their listening only and over built it, it could never sound right in a different environment. I'm not sure how a hobby such as high end audio has fallen into that mistake to be honest, and that it is taking them so long to realize what has been done, if at all.

The flip side to this is, the numbers don't lie and I'm convinced the simple system setup is going to come back strong. At this show I didn't see the young impressed with High End Audio at all, but I do see the audiophile spirit within these kids and when they sit down to a system they like they are pretty Wow-ed. So I see a couple of things happening. A simple system explotion, and audio systems falling into two camps. One is the Hi-tech, and the other is the take no prisoner listening hobby. What I don't see for the future is listeners buying in the super high prices without the delivery of sound. There have been too many super high end audio graveyards made sitting in guys homes, to supply the curious, and I don't see the high dollar market for audio ever being bigger than the used market again. Rotating audio like cars models has lost it's appeal except for a few.

anyway I appreciate your comments, and welcome more

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