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PostSubject: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:07 am



Enjoying Stan Getz tonight I started to drift into the past, thinking about some of the MG Audio systems and what they did and how they helped me become a better listener. I think I'll list a few of them as time goes on. This isn't necessarily first come first serve and for sure isn't any list of better to worst, more about the match ups and what I learned.


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:50 am

I'll get this rolling with a system I had in my first MG Audio. AR (Acoustic Research) was just starting to shift from old school to new along with others like Marantz. AR's electronics came under much fire even though kind of a cool look, and I did listen to them but was pulled toward the match up with Rotel and Hitachi. As you scroll you will see my more from mid-fi to high end audio happened pretty fast.

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First store line-up was Marantz, AR, Rotel, B&W, Teac, Pioneer, Dali, Misson, JBL, Crown, Electrovoice, Sony, Yamaha, Decote', Dahlquist, Quad, some I forget and an assortment of mods. It was just the beginning and before I went high end audio nuts.

The other stores in Atlanta (there from the 70's) carried most of the names, making me the new comer, but by 82-83 I was moving in on their turf, buying up all the extra lines. If it was in Stereophile and not taken, it was mine. But before the craze I had some secret weapons in Rotel's best years and a surprisingly incredible sounding integrated from believe it or not Hitachi.



I loved my Hitachi Smile . As a deal I could bring in their blow out speakers (above) to run sales on and bring in the killer amp to sell with the B&W 801's that loved this amp. So even though the first year was a little amp shy I started gaining the rep by doing some cool mods on some toys.


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:31 pm

I should point out that at this same time I had an office/studio/hall downtown while I had the store just outside of town. I say this because I'm leaving out a lot of pro recording gear and all the tape machines which I may or may not cover on this thread. Of course there was always cross over but I'm going to stick to the audiophile home side on this thread, or at least how I viewed it at the time. I believe at the time there were only two stores in town that did the cross selling and the rest were either strickly home or pro. I kept it separate as well with my audiophile shop staying mostly home. Interesting that even back then there was a separation between the two worlds. Actually, 3 worlds when I think about it. Home audio, pro audio and record shops, go figure Rolling Eyes I also carried audiophile recordings.

and now a little about the age of amps


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:22 am

Wow Guys

I didn't think anyone would pay attention to my old stores but I'm glad to see you stopping by.

Now this may not be in order, but when the fever hit, it hit me big and I started bringing in everything. I think I specialized though in that middle class of products up to about $5000.00 or so at the time.

here's a few more of the solid state amps



Those of you who followed high end in the 80's can see where I was coming from with these brands. AudioLab, I'm not sure when I picked them up, but they were in the integrated amp phase for me. AudioLab, Arcam, Rotel, Creek and a few more when I can think of them. But when this happened almost all of my Mid Fi hit the door bye bye, and my base line for receivers was pretty much Rotel, Vector Research, NAD, Nakamichi (decks mostly), Carver (tuners mostly) and once in a while if something hot came out I brought a few in. Most of my clients though started at integrated amps and up at that time. It was a busy time for high end.

I should also mention that the other side of my biz was Pro, and sometimes there was a cross-over that would happen. For example Hafler and Crown. I can somewhat remember doing some demos with a Crown (can't remember the model) but months later the amp started to get reviewed in high end rags.



Was nice when the lines between pro and home were not so blurred.


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:56 pm

Hi Michael

Thanks for sharing this side of you. It helps to see your past stores and background.

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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:22 am

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A few times MG Audio was listed as dealer of the month for certain products. SuperPhon CD Maxx was one of these products, a couple times with Rotel, but one I was particularly proud of was when we were a part of putting Counterpoint on the map.


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:25 am

more of the MG Audio family


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:20 am

Hi Michael

The wingate amp reminds me of the current Dartz NHB 108 amp. Pretty cool stuff Michael Exclamation

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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:53 am

Hi Tj

The 108 is an interesting sound, a little too mellow for my liking but my listen was not extented, and my taste needs control throughout. I'm not being fair at all but wearing my past audiophile hat Smile . It does look like the Wingate, more sexy in a way, where the Wingate is more guttsy looking and sounding. When I first saw the 108 as with the Wingate it was one of those "I want it" moments for it's styling. Of course these amps are a good (maybe more) 15 years apart.

The Wingate stood alone in it's day and even though it topped the listening charts, reviewers weren't going to allow Steve's marketing plan to rule the day. He believed in a direct to client, with dealer support, but low margin. Very few dealers were going to go for that.

I love the history of High End Audio and was glad to be one of the insiders on a lot of this stuff.

You know what the NHB 108 reminded me of sound wise? The 200 believe it or not.


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:07 am

A couple more of the lines MG Audio did in the 80's. The CAT and DR-6 were the first two preamps I ever listened to with Harry Pearson.



I can remember, if you had the AR, Classe' and CAT as a store (which I did) you at that time was at the top of the game.

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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:51 am

Two more of my favs. That little Music Reference pre was out of this world good.


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:35 pm

Here's a look at some of the speakers at MG Audio.


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:26 am

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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:57 am

don't worry the shows just beginning Laughing as you guys have heard me say, I was so much of an equipment junky I had to have my own stores to feed my habbit


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:03 am

Some more goodies. Around this time RoomTune was on the scene.



I was being flooded with brands wanting to come on board so there was a lot of cherry pickin.  The older ML is pictured cause I was enjoying doing stands for these. I had several Logans. Also a few models of Roger West Soundlabs.

One thing I wanted to point out is from 1989 on I had product lines coming into the  MG Audio stores but also was bringing in specific product for clients and reviewers to tune up. For example if I was going to do a show I might get some of the products and listen to them, so when I got to the shows would be up on what the designs could or couldn't do. Also because of RoomTune I was doing a lot of private setups for some of the more expensive systems out there like Wilson, Goldmund and other super high end,  the line between the stores and setups become a little blurred but I'll share some of those lines and setups as well. It's going to look like I carried everything, and I did carry a lot of lines but, I also wanted to give that note so to explain some of the brands. I was kinda in an unusual place in the industry, being having a store, a factory and being called on to do so many show and reviewer  setups. It was a blast and it was busy Very Happy

the story continues

You might remember this pic from a stereophile review. Well at that time I had Avalon, Wilson, Goldmund and a bunch of other brands wanting me to do their acoustics. Electronic companies as well.

below stereophile review

above the new mix of high end speakers (including the Chameleon)

Our biggest show RoomTune did 87 rooms. WOW affraid I know. This was all good doing acoustics and racks, but when the speaker line came out, all of a sudden many of these same "friends" looked at RoomTune differently. YIKES Laughing Exclamation This is why you might see fewer speaker lines as compared to electronics.

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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:17 am

OK back to some of the MG Audio amp lines.


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:53 am

Tuners @ MG Audio


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:13 am




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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:14 am

One of my reference CDP's for a long time. Great mated to the matching amp.




The 88 went nicely with many amps, great in CDP/Integrated setups.

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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:58 am

An interesting line that I picked up for the Nashville store.


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:47 pm


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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:49 pm



yes, I had to throw in the Harbeth using RT DecoTunes

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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:19 pm


Greetings Michael and Zonees

A curious juxtaposition indeed, Mr Green!

From your hearing impressions, how would describe., compare and contrast the sound of Harbeth (the larger 5 and the 7s) against the Dahlquist DQ10?

For Sonic I understand from another Green(e) I admire (Prof. Robert Everist Greene) a mathematician, musician and audio reviewer - that the DQ10s were ludicrously coloured compared to the BBC monitors like the Spendors.

There was also (Sonic heard about) a Hi-Fi News and Record Review ages ago which I cannot find online where the British magazine did a shoot out DQ10 against some UK monitors and criticized the Dahlquists as ludicrously coloured.

Of course the comments flowed back forth -- not enough power, British prejudice against USA speakers and such.

Michael -- what do you recall of the sound of Harbeths and Dahlquists?

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PostSubject: Re: MG Audio "reminiscing the store"   Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:18 pm

talk about memories

Spendor (another great line I cherry picked) and I had some nice evenings together.



Rogers, Spendor, B&W, Harbeth, Dahlquist, PSB and Decote' were all in my place at the same time.

When I say Rogers in with Spendor and Harbeth I'm not talking about the mini monitors. And when I say B&W I'm talking about their old school before they became americanized.

First off I'm not sure I'm as sold on the newer models as I am the older with any of these brands. Anything metal sounding in the tweeter department bothers me.  This is strickley my impression and opinions, but it seems to me with all these companies there were times they had listeners on board during the designing and other times they must have been just looking for spec.

Harbeth vs DQ-10's

When I read this, my mind wanted to say you mean Harbeth vs Rogers or Spendor. Harbeth vs Dahlquist is kinda weird to get my ears around. The DQ 10 is the dynamic version of the Quad 57. I could see a Shahinian Diapason, Ohm Walsh, Dahlquist DQ-10 debate before a Harbeth/ Dahlquist.



but Ok the question is Harbeth vs DQ-10's

Without getting into the tonal differences right off, let me talk about space. The British Monitor idea of space is about staying within the lines, whereas the DQ-10 and the others I mentioned are about opening up the stage ambience. The two sounds and purposes are night and day. The DQ-10, Quad, your Magnepan and like designs are made to play off the room. The British Monitor, Klipsch, JBL are designed to cut through the room. Where the one is saying "room I'm glad your here, play me" the other is saying "get out of my way room, you bug me". It's not a matter of who is right as it is that these speaker lines are an expression of the designer.

reviewers

Watch reviewers, very few of them re-think their systems (including rooms) when they are going from one product to the next. Often times when it comes to speakers that are space based the reviewer (if use to the lines) will try to make the space speakers do what the monitors do and are built to do. The opposite is true as well. If your use to a horn system cutting through your body, and go listen to a DQ-10 or Quad, you might sit there wanting to keep turning up the volume, you'll be lushed to death.

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't put a British Monitor anywhere near the DQ-10's in my store. They would be in two different rooms with two different Vibes.

Even thinking about this, makes me understand why I went to Tunable Speakers for myself. I quess I like the different sounds so much, it would be hard for me to be stuck with one or the other, or I would need to have about 10 listening rooms, which may be why I had stores. I think there's something special about almost all these speakers. Sure companies build stuff to fit the marketplace, but many of these models are designed because of some certain quality that the designer was excited about at the time.

I think the hobby spends a little too much time on "which is the best". Shoot if I didn't have speakers I could adjust, I'd no doubt have a speaker sitting room, full of about 20 different brands and models just waiting to be picked.

$25,000.00 for one fixed speaker, no way, I'd have me 25 $1000.00 speakers give or take.

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